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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sounds good. The Chehalis site has
good LoS to Bawfaw. I think our performance hit may be coming
from being on the edge of sector 1.<br>
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I did propose creating a Baldi link after we set up the backfeed.
While there is LoS, it was thought to be too long at 82 miles to
be reliable, especially during inclement weather. I don't have
much experience with long distance PtP, so I can't really make an
educated prediction of its performance. It might be something to
try, at least until we can build a closer site.<br>
<br>
Dale<br>
AH6ET<br>
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On 3/20/2023 2:14 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:<br>
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PtP dishes use different radios than the sectors/clients, but
if the link was good enough it should work to point one of the
existing PtP dishes to your QTH. (The PtP radios are the
NetMetal radios and they only support 20Mhz channels, the
sectors/clients are normally 5Mhz or 10Mhz, but can be put on
20Mhz) </div>
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am guessing someone considered linking BawFaw to Baldi, but
that would be challenging. The only tower that is in right
orientation is also maxed out, so we'd have to remove
something else to add this PtP dish. There is already work
planned this summer at Baldi, so we can consider what would be
required to do it while on site.</div>
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Kenny</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at
2:00 PM Dale Skyllingstad <<a
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<div dir="auto">Are there any plans to work on Bawfaw?
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<div dir="auto">Since Bawfaw is an island on the network
[no]thanks to DNR, a client node at my host in Chehalis is
backfeeding the sector via a VPN. One possibility I've
thought of is to swing one of the unused PtP dishes toward
Chehalis, since we're only getting a couple Mb/s to that
site with the sector backfeed config. I believe at least
two dishes that pointed at DNR sites are still up there.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Of course, the best solution is to get the
Bawfaw island back onto the network. But I'm not sure
there are currently any feasible PtP paths to that site.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Bawfaw also needs cable replacement; Bart
and I made a temporary fix two years ago to keep water
that had gotten into the cable out of the PoE injectors
after a failure.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Dale</div>
<div dir="auto">AH6ET</div>
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Kenny Richards <<a
href="mailto:richark@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">richark@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Date: 3/20/23 1:30 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: Rob Salsgiver <<a href="mailto:rob@nr3o.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob@nr3o.com</a>> </div>
<div>Cc: <a href="mailto:netops@hamwan.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">netops@hamwan.org</a>,
Puget Sound Data Ring <<a
href="mailto:psdr@hamwan.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">psdr@hamwan.org</a>>
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<div>Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season
projects - INPUT NEEDED! </div>
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<ol>
<li>Replacement sectors / hardware to upgrade to dual
band (I have all the hardware now)</li>
<li>Replacement NetMetal / Dish to replace
Beacon.Baldi PtP, if in fact it is needed to bring
this link back online. (I have the netmetal and will
work out the dish with Doug)</li>
<li>ToDo: Re-IP the three sectors and move off the
44.24.240.x subnet (I will do this when configuring
the sectors prior to installation)</li>
<ol>
<li>Depending on how many static IP / links have
been set up on the sectors, I might need some help
here. </li>
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</ol>
<div>ETiger</div>
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<ol>
<li>Get approval again from Rich-KF7BJI to install
the 60Ghz link hardware and HamWAN router in the
Silke building</li>
<ol>
<li>Install 60Ghz radio/antenna on Silke tower (I
am hoping it will fit on the same mount as the
POV camera)</li>
<li>Run new Cat5e cable (the cable run and mounts
are already installed when I remounted the
camera several years ago)</li>
<li>Install the HamWAN router in the rack, create
link to Silke router and move the POV camera
over to HamWAN router</li>
</ol>
<li>Get approval again from PSRRG to install the
other end of the 60Ghz link at the main site</li>
<ol>
<li>Will require installing the 60Ghz
antenna/radio on tower (A spot was identified a
couple years ago, hoping still available)</li>
<li>Install cat5 mounts, since they didn't seem to
be installed previously and run new cat5 into
hut</li>
<li>possibly shift around devices on R1.etiger to
open up port for new radio</li>
</ol>
</ol>
<div>I am guessing doing #2 first makes more sense and
then completing #1. Probably the biggest challenge
is lining up the approvals again (was originally all
done pre-Covid and pre-DNR mess). Besides getting
the ETiger camera back, the on other long term
benefit is being able to add another PtP to the
Silke tower and/or another sector.(I am now leaning
to another PtP link if a target can be identified,
like Buck?)</div>
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<div>Buck - I completely forgot about this one in my
original e-mail...</div>
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<ol>
<li>biological interference maintenance / removal</li>
<li>Move the now dead Gold.Buck PtP to point to
another site and re-enable a second link into the
site.</li>
<li>Anything else Rob?</li>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Kenny</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at
11:52 AM Rob Salsgiver <<a href="mailto:rob@nr3o.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">What
do you need for both sites Kenny? If we can
get a list together we can see what is needed
that we don’t already have and get it
ordered. Lead times are my biggest concern
here. </span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif""> Kenny
Richards [mailto:<a
href="mailto:richark@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">richark@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 20, 2023 9:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Puget Sound Data Ring<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:netops@hamwan.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">netops@hamwan.org</a>;
Rob Salsgiver<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN
season projects - INPUT NEEDED!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif"">While
#1 (Baldi) is at the top of my list to
get done this year, I'd also like to
make some progress on ETiger if I can
line up the approvals. Specifically I'd
like to put in a 60Ghz link between the
two buildings (removing the need for
using a sector), add a HamWAN router to
the second building and finally fix the
camera. I think the ETiger camera was
one of the most popular for people
outside of HamWAN.</span></p>
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style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif"">Thanks</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:Arial,"sans-serif"">Kenny</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at
8:09 PM Rob Salsgiver <<a
href="mailto:rob@nr3o.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob@nr3o.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good evening all,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It’s that time of
year again where we need to start
putting together the list of
projects to try to accomplish for
the year. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to
get input from anyone who has a
project they would like to see
accomplished this year. Priority
focus will be on those items
requiring mountain top access as
those are our most time or weather
sensitive items.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Below is a
starting list of projects I know at
least bits about:</p>
<p>1)<span style="font-size:7pt">
</span>Baldi visit – upgrade sectors
to MIMO and/or PTP work(?)</p>
<p>2)<span style="font-size:7pt">
</span>Lookout visit – effect
repairs on Lookout/SnoDEM PTP dish
(likely cable fault)</p>
<p>3)<span style="font-size:7pt">
</span>Indianola setup – in process
/ being finished by Doug and others</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What else? As
mentioned, it doesn’t need to be a
site/tower project, but those are
the primary focus during good
weather.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Let me know and
I’ll get it on the list so we can
try to gather and coordinate
resources as needed.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rob Salsgiver –
NR3O</p>
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