[HamWAN PSDR] 44.x.x.x HamWAN network at Paine

[Steve]

One thing I have discovered is if you build it, sometimes they do NOT come.

First you have to have a need, business case, what ever you want to call
it. Services running etc?

Steve




On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Bob <ke7jl at comcast.net> wrote:

> Bill,
> Kirkland Emergency Communications Team took delivery of 10 ID-1s, a ID-RP2C
> Controller and a ID-R3 Data Module in 2010.  The intent was to link our
> EOC-Radio Room with our 7 remotes sites and two portable units with a high
> speed data network.  However we did not develop functional requirement
> specifications and we did not do any preliminary feasibility testing before
> equipment order was placed.
> I spent two years attempting to develop a working network.  Below are some
> of my findings.
> 1.      The radio to radio path has to be line of sight or via a good
> reliable reflector.  The best tool that I found to determine if a viable
> path exists is Radio Mobile.    I did a number of field tests, ID-1 to ID-1
> and ID-1 to the K7LWH DD node on the Lincoln Tower in Belleview.  In all
> tests where the terrain extended into the direct path a connection could
> not
> be established.  Our only fixed location in Kirkland with K7LWH DD node is
> the city hall.  We have only on fire station that could see the antenna on
> the City Hall.  With the new construction I am not sure if it is currently
> a
> good path.
> 2.      ID-1 to ID-1 DD mode is simplex.  A 1MB image takes about 2.5
> minutes to transfer.
> 3.      I am not sure of what the through put would be for a DD Gateway
> (K7KFD) 2, 3 or 4 ID-1's were connected at the same time and passing files.
> 4.      I was told by ICOM, a few years ago, that the ID-1s could not be
> meshed.  If the firmware could be reprogrammed to be compatible with
> Broadband-Hamnet, many of us may be willing to take the ID-1 off the shelf
> and get them on the air.
> 5.      There are groups that have established links using ID-1s back to
> back but I determined that our group did not have the human recourse to
> establish and maintain a  reliable link in a disaster at this time.
>
> I for one would like to see an ID-1 networking "cookbook" if one is ever
> written.   John Haze K7VE  was a recourse the rest was through trial and
> error.  I am willing to share my rough notes (they are rough) with anyone
> that may be interested.
>
> In the mean time I am looking to HamWAN and Broadband-Hamnet to handle high
> speed data transfer in Kirkland.
>
> Bob Morrisson KE7JL
> Kirkland Emergency Communications Team
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces at hamwan.org] On Behalf Of Bill Vodall
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:37 PM
> To: Puget Sound Data Ring
> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 44.x.x.x HamWAN network at Paine
>
> > So, you may wonder, why do I want to even screw around with the ID-1
> > radios in DD-mode?  Because there are so few of them, and I have one
> > on the air, and the SnoCo DEM has one on the air.
>
> Another local EmComm group has 7 ID-1's that, AFAIK, aren't yet being used.
> Some of the folks there that I've talked to have mentioned propagation
> issues as the primary impediment.
>
> I bet they'd be very happy to have a cookbook process in place where they
> could get on and connect with a node like Paine Field or set up one of
> their
> own.
>
> 73
> Bill, WA7NWP
>
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