[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: 900MHz service experiment

Tom Hayward tom at tomh.us
Fri Mar 6 19:59:53 PST 2015


Try the swap meet tomorrow?
On Mar 6, 2015 7:55 PM, "Bart Kus" <me at bartk.us> wrote:

>  Turns out the shipping on that 8dBi vertical is $125.
>
> I'm open to suggestions at this point.
>
> --Bart
>
>
> On 3/6/2015 11:23 AM, Bart Kus wrote:
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> I just sent you all the relevant invoices.
>
> Thanks, board!  I guess I'm placing all the orders now.
>
> --Bart
>
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> On 3/6/2015 11:19 AM, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:
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> Bart,
>
>  I also vote YAY on the contingency that you get caught up on the
> paperwork.  I still don't have the invoices on file from your last two
> purchases. ;)
>
>  That makes it unanimous, so I guess the voting is complete.
>
>  -Cory
> NQ1E
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Ryan Elliott Turner <ryan.e.t at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Thanks, Bart. I vote yay.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:47 PM, gary.k7ek at yahoo.com <gary.k7ek at yahoo.com
>> > wrote:
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>>>  I'd be interested in experimenting with 900 mhz gear at my Spanaway
>>> residence, and possibly at my Graham Hill repeater site. I believe 900 mhz
>>> would provide better overall results than 5 Ghz, which proved to be
>>> marginal to barely usable during our recent site survey.
>>>
>>>  Best regards,
>>>
>>>  Gary, K7EK
>>>
>>>
>>>  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Bart Kus" <me at bartk.us>
>>> To: "Puget Sound Data Ring" <psdr at hamwan.org>
>>> Subject: [HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: 900MHz service experiment
>>> Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2015 10:38
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> 5.9GHz is awesome when it works.  The speeds are great, and it carries
>>> as far as the eye can see with very low ambient noise floor.  It does
>>> however have problems when it needs to penetrate trees and buildings.
>>> To alleviate this, I'd like HamWAN to offer a slower but deeper
>>> penetrating 900MHz service.  900MHz is the lowest frequency ham band
>>> without bandwidth or modulation rate restrictions.  Before we deploy a
>>> full cell site, I'd like to get some real-world experience with 900MHz
>>> penetration, propagation and ambient noise conditions.  Here's the
>>> cheapest appropriate hardware we can use for this:
>>>
>>> 1x Vpol omni antenna @ $79.50/ea = $79.50
>>> (http://www.balticnetworks.com/laird-antenna-omni-8dbi-900mhz-n-female-integrated.html)
>>> 2x 9HPn modem @ $108.00/ea = $216.00
>>> (http://www.balticnetworks.com/mikrotik-metal-9hpn.html)
>>> 1x Shipping @ $UNKNOWN (quote not showing?!  Need to call them.) =
>>> $40.00 ???
>>>
>>> Total: $335.50
>>>
>>> I already have a 900MHz high gain Yagi-Uda in my inventory and can use
>>> that to do various field tests.  These can be directly compared against
>>> 5.9GHz performance since the gear will be deployed to one of our
>>> existing 5.9GHz cell sites.  The results of such comparisons will give
>>> us a good idea of how well 900MHz might do for HamWAN.
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: These may not be the right modems or antennas for us
>>> long-term.  A real deployment might use Ubiquiti Rocket M900 with their
>>> sector antennas.  These Ubiquiti items are far more expensive though,
>>> and their software doesn't integrate as easily into our network, so for
>>> the purposes of the test I believe the set of hardware I proposed will
>>> do well at deploying fast and keeping costs down.
>>>
>>> NOTE: If both the votes are approved, I will combine shipping from
>>> Baltic to save money.
>>>
>>> --Bart
>>>
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>>
>>  --
>>
>> Ryan Turner
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