[HamWAN PSDR] Future HamWan Site

Mon Aug 29 13:38:49 PDT 2016

The need for help is not entirely guaranteed. It is entirely possible that
the Mi6WAN will still help with this project. However, I am looking for
alternatives just in case.
Thanks,
AVJ

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Rob Eby via PSDR <psdr at hamwan.org> wrote:

> Have you hit up the boys at Microsoft? I know, I know. Corporate. I get
> it. But maybe the boys at MicroHams could help out. Just an option.
>
> cuidate - hablamos pronto take care - talk soon Rob
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Elias <ke8avj at gmail.com>
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2016 10:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Future HamWan Site
>
> Hello everyone,
> I was hoping to address the conflict with more discretion however, the
> primary concern that we have is that Fred Moses of the Mi6WAN has stated
> that they will not help us set up this system unless we give the Mi6WAN
> complete ownership of the equipment. So I am attempting to contact
> individuals who would be willing to help us if the Mi6WAN will not.
>
> Thank you,
> Mike Elias
> K8AVJ
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Ryan Elliott Turner <ryan.e.t at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> $20,000 is a lot of money. Here in Memphis, we've deployed 3 traditional
> sectorized hamwan sites, and we have 3 more points of presence with omnis
> and backhaul equipment. I think with that we've still spent less than half
> your budget. Our community involvement waxes and wanes, but we're where we
> are today comfortably after two years of effort. Even if we were to throw
> more money at the problem, I don't know that we would've accomplished our
> network rollout much faster (unless we had enough to hire help). It takes
> significant effort, especially for those who aren't familiar with the
> technology (WISP). It will be very important to have a core local group
> with this experience participating in order for your project to succeed.
>
> I don't know what your concerns are regarding Mi6Wan, but I believe Fred
> and his group would be an excellent fit to help with this. We're always
> excited to see new HamWANs growing and happy to help them flourish. In
> terms of formal support, we're all volunteers, and there is no SLA. We're
> most active in IRC. It'd be appropriate for you to direct less structured
> questions on there (filling in gaps of our wiki, asking for explanations on
> certain design decisions, etc). We're happy to help you troubleshoot
> issues, but do expect to be participating along the entire way. To perform
> and be secure, you'll need volunteers to administer your network (and you
> don't want them to be entirely remote).
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 at 10:28 Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz> wrote:
>
> Or he could just work with the group who already did the design work and
> grant work.  But that's just me.
>
> --
> Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
> fred at moses.bz
>
> On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:22, Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>
> Congratulations Michael on your project approval!  It sounds like a
> substantial undertaking.  I would suspect there would be several on the
> list who would be willing to lend a hand, particularly once more of the
> project scope is known.  When you have an opportunity, if you can share
> some of the project details it would give folks a better idea as to where
> they may be able to contribute their expertise.  We have a lot of people
> on-list with background in site analysis, coverage mapping, etc – not to
> mention all of the networking disciplines.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
>
> *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces at hamwan. org <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Elias
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:37 PM
> *To:* psdr at hamwan.org
> *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] Future HamWan Site
>
> Hello HamWan,
>
> I apologize if I am sending this email to the wrong address. My name is
> Michael Elias and I am the club secretary for the Saginaw Valley Amateur
> Radio Association. We have recently been approved for a grant to upgrade
> our repeater and implement a HamWan style system. The grant was for $26,000
> with $20,000 of that money allotted to the HamWan system.
>
> This is the largest project our club has ever attempted and although we
> are currently working with Central Michigan Emergency Network and the
> Mi6Wan, there is serious concern that we will not be able to complete this
> project. I am contacting you in advance of our monthly meeting to ask if
> you would be willing to help us with this project and if so, how much and
> what type of help we could expect from you in accomplishing this project? I
> understand you currently know nothing about the project or what we are
> trying to accomplish so I don't expect you to give specifics or details.
>
> Our club meeting is this Friday, September 2. Although the grant has been
> approved, our general membership still needs to vote on accepting the grant
> money and committing to the project. I am putting together a presentation
> for this meeting to answer questions and address concerns. I am trying to
> make this presentation as complete as possible and if you like I can send
> you a copy when it is complete.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this and I look forward to hearing
> from you.
> Michael Elias
> K8AVJ
> SVARA website www.k8dac.com
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