[HamWAN PSDR] Beacon Tower-Capital Park Backbone Link

[Kenny Richards]

Rob,

At this point it would be ~$1000 to purchase the equipment to run the test.
(Although we have data from Brian, who is running such a link over a metro
area already)

Thanks
Kenny

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:

> If we’re looking at “experimenting” rather than jumping ship on standards
> at the moment, is there value in configuring two separate links at the same
> locations to compare/contrast with weather differences, etc – as well as
> find out any “cohabitation” problems between 2 or 3 frequency sets?
> Obviously cost may be an issue, but if we have access and cooperative
> environments for both ends at the moment, why not learn as much as we can?
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> Just a thought.
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> Cheers,
>
> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
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> *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces at hamwan.org] *On Behalf Of *Darcy
> Buskermolen
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:45 PM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Beacon Tower-Capital Park Backbone Link
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> Although for my day job I represent a specific hardware vendor, from a
> services standpoint we will weploy multi vendor if it's the right tool for
> the job.  What we do is try to limit the number of ad hoc differences.  So
> I'd definitely be in support with the idea of using the 3.4 or 10 as a pure
> bridge. That way most of the skill/knowledge for the hard bits (ie layer 3)
> is still microtik centric.
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> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018, 17:38 Kenny Richards, <richark at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Another possible benefit, if we figure out how to make the 3.4Ghz solution
> work between Beacon/CP, is it could be re-used between CP and Queen Anne.
>
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> I totally understand Bart's point, having common standards is important
> and has benefits. I think what Doug is suggesting is that maybe this is a
> case where we need a new standard. We have hit a situation that the old
> approaches are not working, so lets look for a new one.
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> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org>
> wrote:
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> First, about access:  ACS has full access, round the clcck to Beacon and
> Capitol Park limited only by our COMT's (Mark, Carl, Doug, Randy, Casey)
> availability.  Bringing third parties requires about a week to establish a
> training mission number.  If we can do the work ourselves, then only our
> schedules are factors.
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> Thank you Nigel for your detailed response on the reuse point.  I am
> guessing from this that there is no objection in principle to trying to put
> this link in place.  We just need to fine the most compatible and
> affordable solution.  Randy has started researching this but we should
> double down on this.
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> -Doug-
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> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Bart Kus <me at bartk.us> wrote:
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> Well, since you asked "why not":
>
> One of the advantages we've found with keeping things on a compatible band
> is the ad-hoc ability to link dishes to sectors during emergencies, or use
> dishes and sectors for spectral analysis on the one common band.
>
> Another advantage is the uniformity of config / interface / automation by
> using the same vendor.  Don't need to train folks on special procedures or
> write exceptions into automation.
>
> --Bart
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> On 3/29/2018 4:45 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
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> On 3/29/18 7:38 PM, Doug Kingston wrote:
>
> For example... Can we reuse a PtoP 5GHz frequency with high isolation
> (shielding)?
>
> Why not use 3.4 GHz UBNT radios?  We have a link here in Tampa at 16.2
> miles
> across Tampa Bay running at 130 Mbit/s.
>
> 3.37 to 3.5 GHz (the frequency range of the M3 radios) is totally unused
> for
> the most part.  A complete link is well under $1000 including antennas.
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