[HamWAN PSDR] 1/2" Outdoor UV Protected CAT 5e

Sun Sep 1 22:42:01 PDT 2019

For anyone who isn't familiar with coaxial cable grounds for tower mounted
cables, I put together a little album of images from putting one together
on 7/8 helaix style cable.  you can find it here https://imgur.com/a/F2x9Ieh

Chris, WY7W

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 10:27 PM Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel at nigelvh.com>
wrote:

> Jamie,
>
> Please do use as you see fit. There are certainly applications where it
> may make sense. For HamWAN as an org doing installs with the community’s
> generously donated funds, finding the appropriate value/performance balance
> is critical.
>
> We’ve been using TC-Pro nearly since inception (and have also gone back
> and replaced some older stuff that wasn’t, with TC-Pro). Installed
> appropriately I’m not aware of any cable failures. Installing appropriately
> also got significantly easier when we found proper cushions for the cable.
>
> With regards to grounding, typically we use grounding devices attached to
> a bus bar at building entrance, but if there were a requirement to do it
> on/at tower, my first thought would be to use a weatherproof steel
> enclosure, put a grounding bar and the grounding devices in there, and
> ground that way. Additionally, that allows you to put protection on the
> data lines as well, much like you’d do on coax with a polyphaser. I suspect
> that would remain substantially cheaper, but I haven’t run the numbers at
> the moment. Alternately, run fiber to the tower and put a switch in an
> enclosure, so no conductive path leaves the tower at all. (This assumes
> power is available/can be run.)
>
> Anyway, as I said, there’s nothing wrong with this choice if that’s what
> makes sense or works for you. For HamWAN installs we’ve had so far, that
> cable would double or more the cost of the entire cell site (Cell buildouts
> are typically a few $k, and we often use 1/2 to 1 1k’ box of TC-Pro), for
> benefits that are addressed in other ways, so I don’t imagine us using it
> or something like it except in very very exceptional circumstances.
>
> Nigel
>
> On Sep 1, 2019, at 21:26, Jamie Hughes <wa7jh at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Nigel,
>
> The TC-Pro looks like it’s outdoor rated, but not so much tower use. In
> some cases that I may go, I will be collocated with public safety equipment
> and I know that the cable they will require must be tower rated cable. I
> like this stuff, even at it’s price, since it can be grounded just like
> coax at the required points of contact using standard grounding kits
> provided by Times or Belden. I get it’s pricy, but I’d rather be safe than
> sorry.
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Jamie Hughes*
> WA7JH
> Mobile: (360) 340-8886 <+13603408886>
>
> *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> *On Behalf Of *Nigel Vander Houwen
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2019 8:55 PM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 1/2" Outdoor UV Protected CAT 5e
>
> Ooof, that pricing is real rough. Unless there’s a real specific
> circumstance, it’s pretty hard to justify a 50x+ cost increase for some
> ethernet cable.
>
> Nigel
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2019, at 20:18, Jamie Hughes <wa7jh at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Please see attached data sheet. And I got an email with pricing:
> Custom cuts are $10/ft but I can do a full 1000ft spool for $7500
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Jamie Hughes*
> WA7JH
> Mobile: (360) 340-8886 <+13603408886>
>
> *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> *On Behalf Of *Tim Osburn
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 1, 2019 8:01 PM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 1/2" Outdoor UV Protected CAT 5e
>
> Jamie,
>                 You happen to know the cost per foot on that.
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Jamie Hughes <wa7jh at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I’m not sure what the current cable type and product is running from tower
> mounted antennas to the equipment in the site shelters, but check this
> product out. I came across this Outdoor rated CAT5e cable designed to mount
> alongside coax on a tower. It grounds like ½” coax. This is exciting things
> that jumped out to me:
>
>    1. Mounts to towers using common coax rubber doughnut ½” mounts
>    2. Can be grounded just like coax to meet the requirements of the site
>    owner
>    3. Is Outdoor rated
>    4. Is UV rated
>
>
> If interested, please see Tyler Booth, contact card attached.
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Jamie Hughes*
> WA7JH
> Mobile: (360) 340-8886 <+13603408886>
>
> <20190901_164356.jpg><Tyler Booth.vcf>
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