[HamWAN PSDR] New Node - Guidance on buying hardware and feasibility of link from my QTH

Fri Aug 28 16:30:20 PDT 2020

The Mikrotik RB912UAG Modem I got off amazon <https://amzn.to/2ErIhzX>for
$83 and it is indeed not region locked as I have it working

Also, The mANT30-PA is a 2' dish
<https://www.ispsupplies.com/MikroTik-RouterBOARD-mANT30-PA>, and has 30dBi
gain, so probably the highest gain one I have seen and also the #1
recommended setup (
https://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html
)

Ah, yes, you’re right.  I looked at the install manual and it shows a
> separately purchased “Basebox” RB900 series radio/modem must be mounted &
> used with the mANT30.  Perhaps the RB912UAG-5HPnd-OUT looks like a good
> possibility for that dish for supporting the 5.9GHz freqs of HamWan:
> https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/mt-basebox/rb912uag-5hpnd-out .  Then
> you also need at least an ether switch if connecting more than one LAN
> device, or a firewall/router such as the RB951 “Routerboard”.
>
>
>
> I’m planning on purchasing a second client node antenna for portable use,
> with a bit more gain than the one I installed at my home QTH (LHG5), this
> time I’m looking at the MikroTik LHG XL 5HP, which appears to incorporate
> the same radio but with a physical larger dish for more gain (27dbi),
> reasonably priced at $61USD.
>
>
>
> Thx for pointing out my misconception.
>

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:02 PM Stephen Kangas <stephen at kangas.com> wrote:

> Ah, yes, you’re right.  I looked at the install manual and it shows a
> separately purchased “Basebox” RB900 series radio/modem must be mounted &
> used with the mANT30.  Perhaps the RB912UAG-5HPnd-OUT looks like a good
> possibility for that dish for supporting the 5.9GHz freqs of HamWan:
> https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/mt-basebox/rb912uag-5hpnd-out .  Then
> you also need at least an ether switch if connecting more than one LAN
> device, or a firewall/router such as the RB951 “Routerboard”.
>
>
>
> I’m planning on purchasing a second client node antenna for portable use,
> with a bit more gain than the one I installed at my home QTH (LHG5), this
> time I’m looking at the MikroTik LHG XL 5HP, which appears to incorporate
> the same radio but with a physical larger dish for more gain (27dbi),
> reasonably priced at $61USD.
>
>
>
> Thx for pointing out my misconception.
>
>
>
> Stephen W9SK
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> *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> *On Behalf Of *Doug Kingston
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:21 PM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] New Node - Guidance on buying hardware and
> feasibility of link from my QTH
>
>
>
> The mANT30 is just an antenna, and fully covers the frequencies used by
> HamWAN.  Its modems you need to be careful about due to frequency
> restrictions.
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>
> -Doug-
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> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 3:11 PM Jamie Owens <jlowens76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Correct, for the modem.. I got that off amazon and was assured by the
> seller that it will work anywhere.. meaning it was not region locked and
> that was indeed the case.
>
> That link I posted was for the antenna/dish alone, there is no differences
> there, ISPSUPPLIES has them in stock and they shipped next day, and it
> arrived within a few days
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> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 9:21 AM Stephen Kangas <stephen at kangas.com> wrote:
>
> Jamie, I looked at the data sheet for that mANT30 antenna and it spec’s
> maximum of 5.875 GHz, which looks like a model for the US that is limited
> by FCC for Part 15 WiFi band.  The client nodes seem to be operating at 5.9
> and 5.925 GHz, therefore you need to order the “international” AKA “Rest Of
> World”, AKA “non-US” version that extends to cover the ham band freq used
> by HamWan.  This is true for any of the antennas sold that can be used for
> WiFi, such as the 5GHz MikroTik models.  This is apparently why all of the
> US suppliers I checked have to special order the ROW version and quoted me
> 2-3 mos, and why we wound up going to a European reseller (you still have
> to select the correct non-US version when ordering from them as well).
>
>
>
> Stephen W9SK
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> *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> *On Behalf Of *Jamie Owens
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:12 PM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] New Node - Guidance on buying hardware and
> feasibility of link from my QTH
>
>
>
> This supplier has the antennas in stock, I got one this week
>
> https://www.ispsupplies.com/MikroTik-RouterBOARD-mANT30-PA
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> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 7:54 PM James Betteley <jabetteley at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you to the group. I’ll get at this.
>
> Jim - N7ING
>
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>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Justin Roberts <w6udf at snars.org> wrote:
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> 
>
> As someone who recently purchased the hardware and got a node online, I
> purchased the router and radome via amazon. The shipper for the antenna was
> scheduled to take upwards of a month. I managed to find it for a little bit
> more on eBay with free priority shipping from Lithuania.
>
>
>
> The configuration Doug sent is very easy and straightforward to follow.
>
>
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> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:37 PM Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:
>
> First you need confirm you have line of site access to one of the HamWAN
> sectors (as discussed in this thread).  If you have that access, you will
> need your own client dish:
>
> http://hamwan.org/Standards/Component%20Engineering/Client%20Hardware.html
>
> and a way of mounting it.
>
> Finally, you will need to configure it:
>
>
> http://hamwan.org/Standards/Network%20Engineering/Client%20Node%20Configuration.html
>
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>
>
> -Doug-
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> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 7:26 PM James Betteley <jabetteley at msn.com> wrote:
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> Hi Doug. I’ve been a subscriber for some time. Watching, listening since
> being active on packet in the late 80’s thru 2001. I live in Port Ludlow
> where I would use The PTN node to connect to the digital world. That node
> doesn’t seem to be there any longer.
>
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> Can you advise how I can gain connectivity to a node in your network and
> thus access a bbs for mail?
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> Many thanks.
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> Jim N7ING
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 27, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:
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> We would need your precise address/location to plot line of site vs.
> obstructions to one of the northern cell sites (Blyn, Lookout,
> SnoDEM(Paine)).
>
>
>
> You can do this yourself using http://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html,
> to map the path from your house to one of those sites.
>
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>
> We need to update the Sites page to have the cell site coordinates for you.
>
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> SnoDEM: Snohomish County Emergency Operations Center (47.923864°,
> -122.244374°) on a 150ft tower
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> Blyn: 48.005941,-122.972276 at roughly 90 ft.
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> Lookout: (I don't have this location)
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> -Doug-, KD7DK
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> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 6:13 PM Jeff LaPlante <jeff at jefflaplante.com>
> wrote:
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> Hello,
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>
> I'm interested in setting up a new node at my QTH. I would like some help
> in determining if my home has a feasible link. I'm in the North
> Arlington/Stanwood area. If it is feasible I'll buy the equipment necessary.
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> Thanks for you time,
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> Jeff (KM6ISJ)
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