[HamWAN PSDR] Grants

[Andrew Dickinson]

I’m curious how you know it was sold so cheaply?  I thought the terms of the price were kept confidential. 

-A

> On Jun 16, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> On 6/16/20 8:15 PM, Cory (NQ1E) wrote:
>> The relationship between ARDC and the community was rocky even before the
>> sale which was seen as a huge breach of trust.  However, it's clear that
>> what was done cannot be undone, so holding a grudge is not very
>> productive.  
> 
> This is not true, a court can do many things.  This hopefully would be during
> the penalty phase of a criminal trial.
> 
>> Especially since we regrettably lost Brian Kantor who was
>> likely the main decision maker.  
> 
> All people involved in the management of ARDC are guilty in this.  Losing one
> person doesn't do away with the unclean hands of the other board members.
> 
>> I hope that going forward ARDC can be more
>> transparent and try to earn our trust back over time.
> 
> It would be nice, but I think the only way this will happen is to remove ARDC
> from the 44net space.  They could have easily been open with the community
> from day one, they actively chose not to.  ARDC has operated in a very high
> handed matter for years.  Lets not kid ourselves, Phil Karn and Brian Kantor
> were huge impediments to amateur IP data networks for decades.  Now we have
> Phil running things and a quite conflicted board of directors.
> 
> The argument was "we had to move NOW and in secret to get the best price for
> the space".  If that was the case, why was it sold so cheaply?  Had they
> waited, the price would have kept going up.  There could have been input from
> the community, opinions sought from states attorneys, open and fair bidding
> for the space, and a clear plan on how to setup the non-profit foundation.
> It's going to be decades until IPv4 space is not needed, nothing needed to be
> rushed.
> 
> You can't reform it, ARDC needs to be razed and rebuilt using trust of the
> community.  Look at the giving they have done to date, it's not benefiting any
> users of the space, or hams in general.  The orgs they have given to are
> guilty of taking ill-gotten funds just the same.
> 
> And hey don't take my words for ARDC being fucked, here's the direct quote
> from the President (Phil) in speaking with me.
> 
>> I'm more than willing to push reset and have a more constructive
>> discussion about how to proceed, but first I do have to make two things
>> clear: 1) I don't think you have a leg to stand on to complain and 2) I
>> would have expected a somewhat more positive response to an announcement
>> that significant grants will now be available for many of the ham radio
>> things that until now we've all had to fund out of our own pockets or by
>> begging from other hams.
> 
> I'm not going to kiss his ring, but it would seem others will.
> 
> 73's
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
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