[HamWAN PSDR] Cell Sites on DNR Towers

Mon Nov 15 08:57:44 PST 2021

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On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 08:42 Dana Hanford <Dana at thesalesgroup.com> wrote:

> I may have missed it, but I don’t recall seeing an answer to John Hays’
> question about lobbying efforts to change the DNR policy regarding charging
> commercial rates to hams for DNR site use.  I am disturbed about losing
> these sites for HamWAN and other amateur uses that have a greater public
> value in support of public safety/disaster communications.  It may be the 11
> th hour but perhaps it is not too late to start lobbying.
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> *From:* PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> *On Behalf Of * John D. Hays
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:35 AM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Cell Sites on DNR Towers
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> About 10 years ago, DNR was going to start charging amateur repeaters
> commercial rates to use DNR sites.  I recall there was an active
> information campaign to the legislature and the legislature instructed DNR
> to maintain the amateur radio rates.  I recall ARRL was involved as well.
> What has been done with your legislators and the Governor's office to see
> what they are willing to do?
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> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:05 PM Jamie Owens <jlowens76 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Maybe also throw in HamWAN Cam's helped catch a wildfire early on.
> http://www.arrl.org/news/ham-radio-wireless-network-camera-detects-washington-wildfire
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> Sad things like this go un-noticed/recognized
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> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:19 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
> dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
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> This is very unfortunate news.  Perhaps we can draft a letter to our state
> legislators explaining our situation with the DNR, and detailing our
> network's contribution toward state emergency communications.  Maybe even
> including an example of our wildfire report last year?
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> Dale
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> On 10/18/2021 10:07 PM, Nigel Vander Houwen wrote:
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> Hello HamWAN volunteers/users/interested parties,
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> As has been previously discussed on the list, there has been a lot of
> happenings in the background over roughly the last year with regards to DNR
> sites. We’ve had several sites in limbo for some time as lease holders
> worked with DNR to sort things out, and we had some hopeful indications
> that it would end up working out in the end.
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> Unfortunately indications have greatly soured. As discussed in recent
> weeks, Rattlesnake and Larch Mountain were decommissioned recently, and
> we’ve now received official word that we’ll need to decommission Gold
> Mountain in the coming weeks. As much as I’d like it to end there, we are
> not holding our breath for Capitol Peak or Blyn.
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> Unfortunately new rules DNR has placed on amateur leases effectively
> exclude use cases like HamWAN, if they were offering them at all due to DNR
> budget issues, and commercial rates are simply not feasible. I’m sure folks
> will think/suggest about additional donations to cover it, but commercial
> rates would require many-fold our current donation levels EVERY YEAR to
> make work. It’s simply not something we can reasonably consider.
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> I’m very sorry to have to deliver this news to the many folks this will
> impact. This is obviously a major blow for the network. I’m thankful for
> the team who has put so much effort into building out these sites and
> maintaining the infrastructure, and I’m saddened to see that work torn
> down. Likewise I know there are quite a number of combined users,
> repeaters, and emergency groups who are going to be impacted by this. I
> hope that we can work with you to get you connected to another site where
> the pathing works.
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> We’re not done. There’s a lot of the core network, and a lot of coverage
> that doesn’t rely on these DNR sites, and will remain operational. We’ll
> likely need to do some work to reconsider/rework redundant pathing after
> this loss. Going forward I’m hopeful for finding new non-DNR sites where we
> can rebuild and expand once more.
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> If anyone has any specific notes or suggestions, please send us an email
> at netops at hamwan.org
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> Nigel
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