[HamWAN PSDR] Site details?

Nick Kartsioukas nick at explodinglemur.org
Thu Mar 16 21:16:29 PDT 2023


Because I enjoy playing around with radio coverage mapping tools and want to have the closest representation of reality?
I'm in an exceptionally non-optimal area for PSDR, so I want to have as much information as I can about required mast height and link budget for each site before I go actually installing anything.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, at 15:45, Stephen Kangas wrote:
> Nick, I'm not certain why precision matters here.  My experience 
> working with Bart & Doug assisting them putting up the Rattlesnake Mtn 
> sector is that they may deviate from the exact bearing only to provide 
> better coverage to the area below, avoiding obstacles and focusing on 
> the user community.  We're not talking really narrow beams here.  You 
> should be able to expect that if there is a sector antenna pointed to 
> your area that it is optimized for your chances of connection 
> regardless of how precise the sector antennas matches 0deg N bearing 
> offsets.
>
> FWIW, Stephen W9SK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> On Behalf Of Carl Leon
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 3:16 PM
> To: 'Puget Sound Data Ring' <psdr at hamwan.org>
> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Site details?
>
> Those are the standard. I think there is one single sector site where 
> that varies, but am not certain.
> Carl, N7KUW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> On Behalf Of Nick Kartsioukas
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 9:51 AM
> To: psdr at hamwan.org
> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Site details?
>
> Sorry, I phrased that part poorly.  Are all sectors aligned at 
> 0/120/240 when present, or do they deviate from those bearings?
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, at 08:26, Doug Kingston wrote:
>> Not all the cell sites have every sector.  If a cell site is on the 
>> side of a hill or has a large obstruction immediately adjacent, we 
>> omit the sector facing into the obstruction as it would not serve any 
>> useful purpose.
>> We have tried to depict the available sector in the map on the 
>> website, but you may need to zoom in to see that detail.  If you have 
>> questions about particular sites, Feel free to contact me directly
>> (dpk at randomnotes.org) or mail the netops@ list or ask on our IRC 
>> channel.
>>
>> -Doug-
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 9:15 PM Nick Kartsioukas 
>> <nick at explodinglemur.org> wrote:
>>> I've been able to find location info for most of the PSDR sites and antenna height info for some of them.  Do they all have sectors pointing 0/120/240 degrees relative to north?  Is there anywhere that has EIRP info?  I'm trying to see how tall a mast I need to get connected, and whether or not I can even make link for some of the sites.  For example it looks like I "only" need a 35' mast for Baldi, but at 28mi away I'm not sure I can get connected reliably, vs Beacon or Capitol Park which are much closer but I'd need at least a 66' mast thanks to local terrain and trees.
>>> At the moment I'm using https://ispdesign.ui.com/ (which now has LIDAR data for buildings/trees!) and have also used RadioMobile Deluxe in the past.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
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