[HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!
Kenny Richards
richark at gmail.com
Mon Mar 20 16:03:14 PDT 2023
Dale,
Sorry about getting your hopes up about a link to Baldi, I just saw someone
had run the plots and that there was a clear LOS. I agree an 82 mile shot
is going to be tough...
Thanks
Kenny
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:45 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
> Sounds good. The Chehalis site has good LoS to Bawfaw. I think our
> performance hit may be coming from being on the edge of sector 1.
>
> I did propose creating a Baldi link after we set up the backfeed. While
> there is LoS, it was thought to be too long at 82 miles to be reliable,
> especially during inclement weather. I don't have much experience with
> long distance PtP, so I can't really make an educated prediction of its
> performance. It might be something to try, at least until we can build a
> closer site.
>
> Dale
> AH6ET
>
> On 3/20/2023 2:14 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
>
> Dale,
>
> The PtP dishes use different radios than the sectors/clients, but if the
> link was good enough it should work to point one of the existing PtP dishes
> to your QTH. (The PtP radios are the NetMetal radios and they only support
> 20Mhz channels, the sectors/clients are normally 5Mhz or 10Mhz, but can be
> put on 20Mhz)
>
> I am guessing someone considered linking BawFaw to Baldi, but that would
> be challenging. The only tower that is in right orientation is also maxed
> out, so we'd have to remove something else to add this PtP dish. There is
> already work planned this summer at Baldi, so we can consider what would be
> required to do it while on site.
>
> Thanks
> Kenny
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:00 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
> dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any plans to work on Bawfaw?
>>
>> Since Bawfaw is an island on the network [no]thanks to DNR, a client node
>> at my host in Chehalis is backfeeding the sector via a VPN. One
>> possibility I've thought of is to swing one of the unused PtP dishes toward
>> Chehalis, since we're only getting a couple Mb/s to that site with the
>> sector backfeed config. I believe at least two dishes that pointed at DNR
>> sites are still up there.
>>
>> Of course, the best solution is to get the Bawfaw island back onto the
>> network. But I'm not sure there are currently any feasible PtP paths to
>> that site.
>>
>> Bawfaw also needs cable replacement; Bart and I made a temporary fix two
>> years ago to keep water that had gotten into the cable out of the PoE
>> injectors after a failure.
>>
>> Dale
>> AH6ET
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Kenny Richards <richark at gmail.com>
>> Date: 3/20/23 1:30 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com>
>> Cc: netops at hamwan.org, Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!
>>
>> Baldi
>>
>> 1. Replacement sectors / hardware to upgrade to dual band (I have all
>> the hardware now)
>> 2. Replacement NetMetal / Dish to replace Beacon.Baldi PtP, if in
>> fact it is needed to bring this link back online. (I have the netmetal and
>> will work out the dish with Doug)
>> 3. ToDo: Re-IP the three sectors and move off the 44.24.240.x subnet
>> (I will do this when configuring the sectors prior to installation)
>> 1. Depending on how many static IP / links have been set up on the
>> sectors, I might need some help here.
>>
>> ETiger
>>
>> 1. Get approval again from Rich-KF7BJI to install the 60Ghz link
>> hardware and HamWAN router in the Silke building
>> 1. Install 60Ghz radio/antenna on Silke tower (I am hoping it will
>> fit on the same mount as the POV camera)
>> 2. Run new Cat5e cable (the cable run and mounts are already
>> installed when I remounted the camera several years ago)
>> 3. Install the HamWAN router in the rack, create link to Silke
>> router and move the POV camera over to HamWAN router
>> 2. Get approval again from PSRRG to install the other end of the
>> 60Ghz link at the main site
>> 1. Will require installing the 60Ghz antenna/radio on tower (A
>> spot was identified a couple years ago, hoping still available)
>> 2. Install cat5 mounts, since they didn't seem to be installed
>> previously and run new cat5 into hut
>> 3. possibly shift around devices on R1.etiger to open up port for
>> new radio
>>
>> I am guessing doing #2 first makes more sense and then completing #1.
>> Probably the biggest challenge is lining up the approvals again (was
>> originally all done pre-Covid and pre-DNR mess). Besides getting the ETiger
>> camera back, the on other long term benefit is being able to add another
>> PtP to the Silke tower and/or another sector.(I am now leaning to another
>> PtP link if a target can be identified, like Buck?)
>>
>> Buck - I completely forgot about this one in my original e-mail...
>>
>> 1. biological interference maintenance / removal
>> 2. Move the now dead Gold.Buck PtP to point to another site and
>> re-enable a second link into the site.
>> 3. Anything else Rob?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kenny
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 11:52 AM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you need for both sites Kenny? If we can get a list together we
>>> can see what is needed that we don’t already have and get it ordered. Lead
>>> times are my biggest concern here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Kenny Richards [mailto:richark at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 9:48 AM
>>> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring
>>> *Cc:* netops at hamwan.org; Rob Salsgiver
>>> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While #1 (Baldi) is at the top of my list to get done this year, I'd
>>> also like to make some progress on ETiger if I can line up the approvals.
>>> Specifically I'd like to put in a 60Ghz link between the two buildings
>>> (removing the need for using a sector), add a HamWAN router to the second
>>> building and finally fix the camera. I think the ETiger camera was one of
>>> the most popular for people outside of HamWAN.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Kenny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 8:09 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good evening all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s that time of year again where we need to start putting together the
>>> list of projects to try to accomplish for the year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to get input from anyone who has a project they would like
>>> to see accomplished this year. Priority focus will be on those items
>>> requiring mountain top access as those are our most time or weather
>>> sensitive items.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Below is a starting list of projects I know at least bits about:
>>>
>>> 1) Baldi visit – upgrade sectors to MIMO and/or PTP work(?)
>>>
>>> 2) Lookout visit – effect repairs on Lookout/SnoDEM PTP dish
>>> (likely cable fault)
>>>
>>> 3) Indianola setup – in process / being finished by Doug and others
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What else? As mentioned, it doesn’t need to be a site/tower project,
>>> but those are the primary focus during good weather.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know and I’ll get it on the list so we can try to gather and
>>> coordinate resources as needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
>>>
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