[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link

Bart Kus me at bartk.us
Mon Jun 1 09:42:25 PDT 2020


I'm sure we could make use of it, probably not for this project but 
other upcoming ones.  Please shoot me an email privately with address 
and we can arrange a pick-up.

--Bart


On 6/1/2020 9:15 AM, j sweeney wrote:
> All,
>
> I've got a mANT30 that I've wound up not using that I'd be happy to 
> contribute to this project.  It has been assembled / hanging in my 
> garage for a year.  It is NOT the precision mount version.
>
> Let me know if that would be of use,
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
>> On 31 May 02020, at 23:35, Bart Kus <me at bartk.us 
>> <mailto:me at bartk.us>> wrote:
>>
>> Jason, glad you like this idea, as you're one one of the tenants who 
>> would benefit from the in-building switch access.  :)  We've 
>> partnered with another tenant who is sponsoring this build-out under 
>> his lease, so we don't need any further approvals.  But thanks for 
>> offering to help!
>>
>> Kenny, a great question that I forgot to make clear. There is already 
>> conduit between all the buildings.  I confirmed tonight that it's got 
>> sufficient capacity to run an extra CAT5.  I think we only have to 
>> fish a ~150ft run between the middle building and the bunker, as 
>> there are spare CAT5s in the conduit between the middle building and 
>> north building, so that should just be plug-n-play.  The trenching to 
>> the bunker was done earlier this year as a response to the awful 
>> power outages we suffered this winter.  The north building is now 
>> tied into generator control (and possibly power?) of the bunker.
>>
>> --Bart
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/2020 11:22 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
>>> Bart,
>>>
>>> I've seen several of these e-mails about the project, but don't 
>>> remember seeing an explanation of a key aspect.
>>>
>>> What is the plan to connect the buildings with gigabit Ethernet?  
>>> Are you planning on digging a trench, stringing the CAT5 along the 
>>> tree's or something else? Sorry, I am not familiar with the layout 
>>> or location of these different buildings. so maybe that is a good 
>>> place to start with your plan? Have you received permission from the 
>>> site owners for this work?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Kenny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jason J. Hill <Jason at pnwrr.com 
>>> <mailto:Jason at pnwrr.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I like this idea. It looks like the wiztronics site would be the
>>>     one you'd like to put the link to rattlesnake on. Since we don't
>>>     currently occupy their main tower structure, we can check with
>>>     them to see if a dish could be covered under our current lease
>>>     at no additional cost if you'd like.
>>>
>>>     Jason
>>>     kd7tqn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ------ Original message------
>>>     *From: *Bart Kus
>>>     *Date: *Sun, May 31, 2020 10:48 PM
>>>     *To: *Puget Sound Data Ring;
>>>     *Cc: *
>>>     *Subject:*[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and
>>>     Rattlesnake link
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     We have 4 clients connected to Baldi-S1 (a SISO sector) that are
>>>     kind of silly:
>>>
>>>      # INTERFACE  RADIO-NAME MAC-ADDRESS       AP  SIGNAL... TX-RATE
>>>     UPTIME
>>>      0 wlan1 AF7PR-Baldi      E4:8D:8C:C6:F5:45 no -60dBm    32.5...
>>>     2d8h51m46s
>>>      1 wlan1 KD7TQN-Baldi     D4:CA:6D:C2:ED:93 no -65dBm    32.5...
>>>     2d8h51m32s
>>>      2 wlan1 N7OEP/Baldi-B... D4:CA:6D:0D:53:F9 no -60dBm    32.5...
>>>     2d8h51m27s
>>>      3 wlan1 Rattlesnake-B... 64:D1:54:AF:3F:CD no -79dBm    19.5...
>>>     1d9h35m21s
>>>
>>>     They're silly because the first 3 are at the same mountain top,
>>>     just a couple hundred feet away in adjacent shacks.  This is a
>>>     waste of prime long-range spectrum, being used to do
>>>     local-links.  I'd like to get all the shacks @ Baldi tied
>>>     together via gigabit Ethernet, and install access switches at
>>>     the 2 other shacks so people there can plug into the LAN
>>>     directly.  This high speed LAN between all shacks can then be
>>>     used to allow us to address the 4th silly client, which is
>>>     Rattlesnake Mountain.  I'd like to install a dedicated dish on
>>>     the northernmost tower (fed by the new high speed LAN) to act as
>>>     a dedicated high speed link between Baldi and Rattlesnake.  The
>>>     dish on the Rattlesnake side will also need a modem upgrade to
>>>     run at full speed, and I'm including that in this proposal.
>>>
>>>     Here is the rough budget for this spend request:
>>>
>>>     *Item**
>>>     * 	*Quantity**
>>>     * 	*Cost**
>>>     * 	*Subtotal**
>>>     *
>>>     500ft pull rope
>>>     	1
>>>     	$12.97
>>>     	$12.97
>>>     425ft duct rod
>>>     	1
>>>     	$111
>>>     	$111
>>>     Taxes for above 2 items
>>>     	1
>>>     	$11.53
>>>     	$11.53
>>>     CRS112-8P-4S-IN for northernmost building, feeding Rattlesnake
>>>     dish w/ PoE and access ports for clients
>>>     	1
>>>     	$170
>>>     	$170
>>>     CRS326-24G-2S+RM for middle building, acting as mid-span switch
>>>     and providing ports to lots of devices there
>>>     	1
>>>     	$185.24
>>>     	$185.24
>>>     Taxes for above 2 items
>>>     	1
>>>     	$33.04
>>>     	$33.04
>>>     1000ft Shielded CAT5 TC-PRO ToughCable
>>>     	1
>>>     	$137.68
>>>     	$137.68
>>>     Taxes for above
>>>     	1
>>>     	$12.80
>>>     	$12.80
>>>     Existing Inventory Estimate: RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM modem
>>>     	2
>>>     	$150
>>>     	$300
>>>     Existing Inventory Estimate: mANT30 2ft microwave dish
>>>     	1
>>>     	$120
>>>     	$120
>>>     Existing Inventory Estimate: Sleeve30 2ft microwave dish
>>>     isolation kit
>>>     	1
>>>     	$100
>>>     	$100
>>>     TOTAL COST ESTIMATE
>>>     	
>>>     	
>>>     	$1,194.26
>>>
>>>
>>>     Current HamWAN balance is about $16k.
>>>
>>>     Procedural reminder since we haven't had one of these emails in
>>>     way too long: HamWAN directors have 24 hours to vote upon such
>>>     spend decisions, and members have the same time to weigh in with
>>>     opinions to influence director votes.  Our procedures are
>>>     documented here:
>>>
>>>     http://hamwan.org/Administrative/Constitution.html
>>>
>>>     --Bart
>>>
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