[HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!

Kenny Richards richark at gmail.com
Mon Mar 20 14:14:42 PDT 2023


Dale,

The PtP dishes use different radios than the sectors/clients, but if the
link was good enough it should work to point one of the existing PtP dishes
to your QTH. (The PtP radios are the NetMetal radios and they only support
20Mhz channels, the sectors/clients are normally 5Mhz or 10Mhz, but can be
put on 20Mhz)

I am guessing someone considered linking BawFaw to Baldi, but that would be
challenging. The only tower that is in right orientation is also maxed out,
so we'd have to remove something else to add this PtP dish. There is
already work planned this summer at Baldi, so we can consider what would be
required to do it while on site.

Thanks
Kenny


On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:00 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:

> Are there any plans to work on Bawfaw?
>
> Since Bawfaw is an island on the network [no]thanks to DNR, a client node
> at my host in Chehalis is backfeeding the sector via a VPN.  One
> possibility I've thought of is to swing one of the unused PtP dishes toward
> Chehalis, since we're only getting a couple Mb/s to that site with the
> sector backfeed config.  I believe at least two dishes that pointed at DNR
> sites are still up there.
>
> Of course, the best solution is to get the Bawfaw island back onto the
> network.  But I'm not sure there are currently any feasible PtP paths to
> that site.
>
> Bawfaw also needs cable replacement; Bart and I made a temporary fix two
> years ago to keep water that had gotten into the cable out of the PoE
> injectors after a failure.
>
> Dale
> AH6ET
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kenny Richards <richark at gmail.com>
> Date: 3/20/23 1:30 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com>
> Cc: netops at hamwan.org, Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!
>
> Baldi
>
>    1. Replacement sectors / hardware to upgrade to dual band (I have all
>    the hardware now)
>    2. Replacement NetMetal / Dish to replace Beacon.Baldi PtP, if in fact
>    it is needed to bring this link back online. (I have the netmetal and will
>    work out the dish with Doug)
>    3. ToDo: Re-IP the three sectors and move off the 44.24.240.x subnet
>    (I will do this when configuring the sectors prior to installation)
>       1. Depending on how many static IP / links have been set up on the
>       sectors, I might need some help here.
>
> ETiger
>
>    1. Get approval again from Rich-KF7BJI to install the 60Ghz link
>    hardware and HamWAN router in the Silke building
>       1. Install 60Ghz radio/antenna on Silke tower (I am hoping it will
>       fit on the same mount as the POV camera)
>       2. Run new Cat5e cable (the cable run and mounts are already
>       installed when I remounted the camera several years ago)
>       3. Install the HamWAN router in the rack, create link to Silke
>       router and move the POV camera over to HamWAN router
>    2. Get approval again from PSRRG to install the other end of the 60Ghz
>    link at the main site
>       1. Will require installing the 60Ghz antenna/radio on tower (A spot
>       was identified a couple years ago, hoping still available)
>       2. Install cat5 mounts, since they didn't seem to be installed
>       previously and run new cat5 into hut
>       3. possibly shift around devices on R1.etiger to open up port for
>       new radio
>
> I am guessing doing #2 first makes more sense and then completing #1.
> Probably the biggest challenge is lining up the approvals again (was
> originally all done pre-Covid and pre-DNR mess). Besides getting the ETiger
> camera back, the on other long term benefit is being able to add another
> PtP to the Silke tower and/or another sector.(I am now leaning to another
> PtP link if a target can be identified, like Buck?)
>
> Buck - I completely forgot about this one in my original e-mail...
>
>    1. biological interference maintenance / removal
>    2. Move the now dead Gold.Buck PtP to point to another site and
>    re-enable a second link into the site.
>    3. Anything else Rob?
>
>
> Thanks
> Kenny
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 11:52 AM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you need for both sites Kenny?  If we can get a list together we
>> can see what is needed that we don’t already have and get it ordered.  Lead
>> times are my biggest concern here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kenny Richards [mailto:richark at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 9:48 AM
>> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring
>> *Cc:* netops at hamwan.org; Rob Salsgiver
>> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!
>>
>>
>>
>> While #1 (Baldi) is at the top of my list to get done this year, I'd also
>> like to make some progress on ETiger if I can line up the approvals.
>> Specifically I'd like to put in a 60Ghz link between the two buildings
>> (removing the need for using a sector), add a HamWAN router to the second
>> building and finally fix the camera. I think the ETiger camera was one of
>> the most popular for people outside of HamWAN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kenny
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 8:09 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good evening all,
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s that time of year again where we need to start putting together the
>> list of projects to try to accomplish for the year.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to get input from anyone who has a project they would like
>> to see accomplished this year.  Priority focus will be on those items
>> requiring mountain top access as those are our most time or weather
>> sensitive items.
>>
>>
>>
>> Below is a starting list of projects I know at least bits about:
>>
>> 1)      Baldi visit – upgrade sectors to MIMO and/or PTP work(?)
>>
>> 2)      Lookout visit – effect repairs on Lookout/SnoDEM PTP dish
>> (likely cable fault)
>>
>> 3)      Indianola setup – in process / being finished by Doug and others
>>
>>
>>
>> What else?  As mentioned, it doesn’t need to be a site/tower project, but
>> those are the primary focus during good weather.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know and I’ll get it on the list so we can try to gather and
>> coordinate resources as needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
>>
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