[HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT NEEDED!
Dale Skyllingstad
dskyllingstad at harbornet.com
Mon Mar 20 15:44:59 PDT 2023
Sounds good. The Chehalis site has good LoS to Bawfaw. I think our
performance hit may be coming from being on the edge of sector 1.
I did propose creating a Baldi link after we set up the backfeed. While
there is LoS, it was thought to be too long at 82 miles to be reliable,
especially during inclement weather. I don't have much experience with
long distance PtP, so I can't really make an educated prediction of its
performance. It might be something to try, at least until we can build
a closer site.
Dale
AH6ET
On 3/20/2023 2:14 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
> Dale,
>
> The PtP dishes use different radios than the sectors/clients, but if
> the link was good enough it should work to point one of the existing
> PtP dishes to your QTH. (The PtP radios are the NetMetal radios and
> they only support 20Mhz channels, the sectors/clients are normally
> 5Mhz or 10Mhz, but can be put on 20Mhz)
>
> I am guessing someone considered linking BawFaw to Baldi, but that
> would be challenging. The only tower that is in right orientation is
> also maxed out, so we'd have to remove something else to add this PtP
> dish. There is already work planned this summer at Baldi, so we can
> consider what would be required to do it while on site.
>
> Thanks
> Kenny
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:00 PM Dale Skyllingstad
> <dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
>
> Are there any plans to work on Bawfaw?
>
> Since Bawfaw is an island on the network [no]thanks to DNR, a
> client node at my host in Chehalis is backfeeding the sector via a
> VPN. One possibility I've thought of is to swing one of the
> unused PtP dishes toward Chehalis, since we're only getting a
> couple Mb/s to that site with the sector backfeed config. I
> believe at least two dishes that pointed at DNR sites are still up
> there.
>
> Of course, the best solution is to get the Bawfaw island back onto
> the network. But I'm not sure there are currently any feasible
> PtP paths to that site.
>
> Bawfaw also needs cable replacement; Bart and I made a temporary
> fix two years ago to keep water that had gotten into the cable out
> of the PoE injectors after a failure.
>
> Dale
> AH6ET
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kenny Richards <richark at gmail.com>
> Date: 3/20/23 1:30 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com>
> Cc: netops at hamwan.org, Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects - INPUT
> NEEDED!
>
> Baldi
>
> 1. Replacement sectors / hardware to upgrade to dual band (I have
> all the hardware now)
> 2. Replacement NetMetal / Dish to replace Beacon.Baldi PtP, if in
> fact it is needed to bring this link back online. (I have the
> netmetal and will work out the dish with Doug)
> 3. ToDo: Re-IP the three sectors and move off the 44.24.240.x
> subnet (I will do this when configuring the sectors prior to
> installation)
> 1. Depending on how many static IP / links have been set up
> on the sectors, I might need some help here.
>
> ETiger
>
> 1. Get approval again from Rich-KF7BJI to install the 60Ghz link
> hardware and HamWAN router in the Silke building
> 1. Install 60Ghz radio/antenna on Silke tower (I am hoping it
> will fit on the same mount as the POV camera)
> 2. Run new Cat5e cable (the cable run and mounts are already
> installed when I remounted the camera several years ago)
> 3. Install the HamWAN router in the rack, create link to
> Silke router and move the POV camera over to HamWAN router
> 2. Get approval again from PSRRG to install the other end of the
> 60Ghz link at the main site
> 1. Will require installing the 60Ghz antenna/radio on tower
> (A spot was identified a couple years ago, hoping still
> available)
> 2. Install cat5 mounts, since they didn't seem to be
> installed previously and run new cat5 into hut
> 3. possibly shift around devices on R1.etiger to open up port
> for new radio
>
> I am guessing doing #2 first makes more sense and then completing
> #1. Probably the biggest challenge is lining up the approvals
> again (was originally all done pre-Covid and pre-DNR mess).
> Besides getting the ETiger camera back, the on other long term
> benefit is being able to add another PtP to the Silke tower and/or
> another sector.(I am now leaning to another PtP link if a target
> can be identified, like Buck?)
>
> Buck - I completely forgot about this one in my original e-mail...
>
> 1. biological interference maintenance / removal
> 2. Move the now dead Gold.Buck PtP to point to another site and
> re-enable a second link into the site.
> 3. Anything else Rob?
>
>
> Thanks
> Kenny
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 11:52 AM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>
> What do you need for both sites Kenny? If we can get a list
> together we can see what is needed that we don’t already have
> and get it ordered. Lead times are my biggest concern here.
>
> Rob
>
> *From:*Kenny Richards [mailto:richark at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 9:48 AM
> *To:* Puget Sound Data Ring
> *Cc:* netops at hamwan.org; Rob Salsgiver
> *Subject:* Re: [HamWAN PSDR] 2023 HamWAN season projects -
> INPUT NEEDED!
>
> While #1 (Baldi) is at the top of my list to get done this
> year, I'd also like to make some progress on ETiger if I can
> line up the approvals. Specifically I'd like to put in a 60Ghz
> link between the two buildings (removing the need for using a
> sector), add a HamWAN router to the second building and
> finally fix the camera. I think the ETiger camera was one of
> the most popular for people outside of HamWAN.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kenny
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 8:09 PM Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com>
> wrote:
>
> Good evening all,
>
> It’s that time of year again where we need to start
> putting together the list of projects to try to accomplish
> for the year.
>
> I would like to get input from anyone who has a project
> they would like to see accomplished this year. Priority
> focus will be on those items requiring mountain top access
> as those are our most time or weather sensitive items.
>
> Below is a starting list of projects I know at least bits
> about:
>
> 1)Baldi visit – upgrade sectors to MIMO and/or PTP work(?)
>
> 2)Lookout visit – effect repairs on Lookout/SnoDEM PTP
> dish (likely cable fault)
>
> 3)Indianola setup – in process / being finished by Doug
> and others
>
> What else? As mentioned, it doesn’t need to be a
> site/tower project, but those are the primary focus during
> good weather.
>
> Let me know and I’ll get it on the list so we can try to
> gather and coordinate resources as needed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
>
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