[HamWAN PSDR] Future HamWan Site

Mon Aug 29 10:49:00 PDT 2016

Hello everyone,
This link has copies of the documents I received. The equipment list will
probably be of most interest to you as it will give you an ideal of the
scope.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_DZuSyNo16nTGdQY1h5QVRrNTg&usp=sharing

As for local administration, my knowledge of this project is limited
because I was not involved until recently. However, I have an Associates
degree in information assurance and a Bachelors degree in network security,
so I understand most aspects of a project like this.

Thank you,
Mike Elias
K8AVJ

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Michael Elias <ke8avj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I was hoping to address the conflict with more discretion however, the
> primary concern that we have is that Fred Moses of the Mi6WAN has stated
> that they will not help us set up this system unless we give the Mi6WAN
> complete ownership of the equipment. So I am attempting to contact
> individuals who would be willing to help us if the Mi6WAN will not.
>
> Thank you,
> Mike Elias
> K8AVJ
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Ryan Elliott Turner <ryan.e.t at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> $20,000 is a lot of money. Here in Memphis, we've deployed 3 traditional
>> sectorized hamwan sites, and we have 3 more points of presence with omnis
>> and backhaul equipment. I think with that we've still spent less than half
>> your budget. Our community involvement waxes and wanes, but we're where we
>> are today comfortably after two years of effort. Even if we were to throw
>> more money at the problem, I don't know that we would've accomplished our
>> network rollout much faster (unless we had enough to hire help). It takes
>> significant effort, especially for those who aren't familiar with the
>> technology (WISP). It will be very important to have a core local group
>> with this experience participating in order for your project to succeed.
>>
>> I don't know what your concerns are regarding Mi6Wan, but I believe Fred
>> and his group would be an excellent fit to help with this. We're always
>> excited to see new HamWANs growing and happy to help them flourish. In
>> terms of formal support, we're all volunteers, and there is no SLA. We're
>> most active in IRC. It'd be appropriate for you to direct less structured
>> questions on there (filling in gaps of our wiki, asking for explanations on
>> certain design decisions, etc). We're happy to help you troubleshoot
>> issues, but do expect to be participating along the entire way. To perform
>> and be secure, you'll need volunteers to administer your network (and you
>> don't want them to be entirely remote).
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 at 10:28 Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz> wrote:
>>
>>> Or he could just work with the group who already did the design work and
>>> grant work.  But that's just me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
>>> fred at moses.bz
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:22, Rob Salsgiver <rob at nr3o.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Congratulations Michael on your project approval!  It sounds like a
>>> substantial undertaking.  I would suspect there would be several on the
>>> list who would be willing to lend a hand, particularly once more of the
>>> project scope is known.  When you have an opportunity, if you can share
>>> some of the project details it would give folks a better idea as to where
>>> they may be able to contribute their expertise.  We have a lot of people
>>> on-list with background in site analysis, coverage mapping, etc – not to
>>> mention all of the networking disciplines.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rob Salsgiver – NR3O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* PSDR [mailto:psdr-bounces at hamwan.org <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Michael Elias
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:37 PM
>>> *To:* psdr at hamwan.org
>>> *Subject:* [HamWAN PSDR] Future HamWan Site
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello HamWan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I apologize if I am sending this email to the wrong address. My name is
>>> Michael Elias and I am the club secretary for the Saginaw Valley Amateur
>>> Radio Association. We have recently been approved for a grant to upgrade
>>> our repeater and implement a HamWan style system. The grant was for $26,000
>>> with $20,000 of that money allotted to the HamWan system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the largest project our club has ever attempted and although we
>>> are currently working with Central Michigan Emergency Network and the
>>> Mi6Wan, there is serious concern that we will not be able to complete this
>>> project. I am contacting you in advance of our monthly meeting to ask if
>>> you would be willing to help us with this project and if so, how much and
>>> what type of help we could expect from you in accomplishing this project? I
>>> understand you currently know nothing about the project or what we are
>>> trying to accomplish so I don't expect you to give specifics or details.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our club meeting is this Friday, September 2. Although the grant has
>>> been approved, our general membership still needs to vote on accepting the
>>> grant money and committing to the project. I am putting together a
>>> presentation for this meeting to answer questions and address concerns. I
>>> am trying to make this presentation as complete as possible and if you like
>>> I can send you a copy when it is complete.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for taking the time to read this and I look forward to hearing
>>> from you.
>>>
>>> Michael Elias
>>>
>>> K8AVJ
>>>
>>> SVARA website www.k8dac.com
>>>
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>> --
>> Ryan Turner, K0RET
>> +1.901.300.0039
>> HamWAN Memphis Metro - Memphis' Amateur Radio Multi-Megabit IP Network
>>
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