[HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2

Sat Jul 29 16:19:33 PDT 2017

Hi Chad,

That looks like a great site.
That would be a good place for a Radio Access Network/Sectors.
Close to the population center to keep path loss low, but on a very high
piece of land.

You might think about a Yakima County Data Ring, 2 or 3 sites that each
have a Radio Access Network, and then a backbone between them.

Elephant Mountain 2270' AMSL +100'
[image: Inline image 3]

West Valley/Summitview 1,840' AMSL +50'
This site would provide coverage from the opposite direction in case of
path blockage for users.
[image: Inline image 4]

Randy
W3RWN

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Chad Smith <chad at verishare.net> wrote:

> Hi Randy,
>
>
> Elephant Mountain is a Country site, east of Konnowac Pass 10 Miles East
> by Southeast of Yakima, WA at 2257 feet.
> W7AQ club repeater, Spokane Repeater Group repeater, YSO Sheriff repeater,
> LEARN and County microwave are up there as well along with a couple mesh
> nodes.
> Latitude: 46.522109 | Longitude: -120.334759
>
>
>
> Chad
> KA7HAK
>
>
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Nigel Vander Houwen)
>>    2. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Paul's eMail)
>>    3. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Randy Neals)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:17:18 -0700
>> From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel at nigelvh.com>
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
>> Message-ID: <8C77D916-AAC9-4802-8FA0-E3A535B3FA60 at nigelvh.com>
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>> Randy,
>>
>> The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential
>> path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the
>> issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy at neals.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to
>> learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection
>> back to Baldi.
>> > Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at
>> Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
>> >
>> > Switching the topic slightly...
>> > Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that
>> is talked of a bit.
>> >
>> > I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio
>> sites to Yakima.
>> > Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima
>> > I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these
>> sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile
>> is a starting place.
>> >
>> > I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources.
>> > But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a
>> project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for
>> maintenance and ongoing operation.
>> >
>> > If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County
>> building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there
>> is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
>> >
>> > I look forward to others thoughts on this.
>> > I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part,
>> wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
>> >
>> > Randy
>> > W3RWN
>> >
>> > <image.png>
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>> > <image.png>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:41:06 +0000
>> From: Paul's eMail <paulproko at hotmail.com>
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
>> Message-ID:
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>> I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good
>> Sam hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be
>> of strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure.
>>
>> Thanks, Paul
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> on behalf of Nigel Vander Houwen <
>> nigel at nigelvh.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:17:18 PM
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
>>
>> Randy,
>>
>> The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential
>> path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the
>> issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy at neals.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to
>> learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection
>> back to Baldi.
>> > Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at
>> Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
>> >
>> > Switching the topic slightly...
>> > Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that
>> is talked of a bit.
>> >
>> > I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio
>> sites to Yakima.
>> > Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima
>> > I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these
>> sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile
>> is a starting place.
>> >
>> > I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources.
>> > But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a
>> project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for
>> maintenance and ongoing operation.
>> >
>> > If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County
>> building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there
>> is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
>> >
>> > I look forward to others thoughts on this.
>> > I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part,
>> wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
>> >
>> > Randy
>> > W3RWN
>> >
>> > <image.png>
>> >
>> > <image.png>
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>> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 23:05:57 -0700
>> From: Randy Neals <randy at neals.ca>
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
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>> Thanks Nigel,
>>
>> The sites in my path profile are:
>>
>> Crystal Mountain. 6,778' AMSL 46 56.2854 N, -121 30.0075 W
>> That's in the Mt Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest, at the the top of Alta
>> Crystal Mountain Resort.
>> The resort is a concessionaire of the National Forest Service.
>>
>> Darland Mountain. 6,828' AMSL 46 30.8378 N, -121 12.5952 W
>> Formerly an NFS Fire Lookout site, tower removed in 1966.
>> Site is solar powered and operated by WA7SAR/Yakima County Search and
>> Rescue.
>> The 146.
>> Vehicle accessible, in the Wenatchee National Forest.
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Yakima County.
>> The Yakima County office is a 4 story+penthouse office building at 1st and
>> MLK.
>> Assuming it can see over the county jail across the street, it has a path
>> to Darland.
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>> Yakima EMD
>> It would also work equally well to the Yakima EMD office in Union Gap.
>> They have a nice tower there that looks like 100' tall.
>>
>> Randy
>> W3RWN
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