[HamWAN PSDR] PSDR Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2

Sat Jul 29 19:06:04 PDT 2017

Wow that coverage looks great. With our ubqiuiti gear on 5.9 and 2.39  we
are getting 20+ miles. Good SNR.  The two clubs (WA7SAR and N7YRC) have
access to several sites including Bethel ,Darland, Elephant and Selah. I've
been promoting the WAN system in our AREDN mesh group hoping to get
something in the works.

Chad
KA7HAK

On Jul 29, 2017 5:04 PM, "Randy Neals" <randy at neals.ca> wrote:

Hi Chad,

That looks like a great site.
That would be a good place for a Radio Access Network/Sectors.
Close to the population center to keep path loss low, but on a very high
piece of land.

You might think about a Yakima County Data Ring, 2 or 3 sites that each
have a Radio Access Network, and then a backbone between them.

Elephant Mountain 2270' AMSL +100'
[image: Inline image 3]

West Valley/Summitview 1,840' AMSL +50'
This site would provide coverage from the opposite direction in case of
path blockage for users.
[image: Inline image 4]

Randy
W3RWN

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Chad Smith <chad at verishare.net> wrote:

> Hi Randy,
>
>
> Elephant Mountain is a Country site, east of Konnowac Pass 10 Miles East
> by Southeast of Yakima, WA at 2257 feet.
> W7AQ club repeater, Spokane Repeater Group repeater, YSO Sheriff repeater,
> LEARN and County microwave are up there as well along with a couple mesh
> nodes.
> Latitude: 46.522109 | Longitude: -120.334759
>
>
>
> Chad
> KA7HAK
>
>
>
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>>    1. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Nigel Vander Houwen)
>>    2. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Paul's eMail)
>>    3. Re: Crystal Mountain / RAMROD (Randy Neals)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:17:18 -0700
>> From: Nigel Vander Houwen <nigel at nigelvh.com>
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
>> Message-ID: <8C77D916-AAC9-4802-8FA0-E3A535B3FA60 at nigelvh.com>
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>> Randy,
>>
>> The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential
>> path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the
>> issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy at neals.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to
>> learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection
>> back to Baldi.
>> > Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at
>> Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
>> >
>> > Switching the topic slightly...
>> > Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that
>> is talked of a bit.
>> >
>> > I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio
>> sites to Yakima.
>> > Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima
>> > I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these
>> sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile
>> is a starting place.
>> >
>> > I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources.
>> > But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a
>> project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for
>> maintenance and ongoing operation.
>> >
>> > If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County
>> building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there
>> is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
>> >
>> > I look forward to others thoughts on this.
>> > I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part,
>> wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
>> >
>> > Randy
>> > W3RWN
>> >
>> > <image.png>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:41:06 +0000
>> From: Paul's eMail <paulproko at hotmail.com>
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
>> Message-ID:
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>> I could potentially negotiate space atop Tacoma General hospital, Good
>> Sam hospital, and pretty much any other Multicare facility if it would be
>> of strategic value to the Hamwan infrastructure.
>>
>> Thanks, Paul
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: PSDR <psdr-bounces at hamwan.org> on behalf of Nigel Vander Houwen <
>> nigel at nigelvh.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:17:18 PM
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
>>
>> Randy,
>>
>> The issue has always been site access. We’ve also identified a potential
>> path via Naneum, but again, getting a site to locate the gear on is the
>> issue. If you have leads in this direction, please do let us know.
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2017, at 21:09, Randy Neals <randy at neals.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I was helping with RAMROD yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to
>> learn that the Crystal VHF repeater was operating on a HamWan connection
>> back to Baldi.
>> > Not sure who to thank/congratulate for that, but the audio quality at
>> Crystal was.."Crystal Clear".. :-)
>> >
>> > Switching the topic slightly...
>> > Getting HamWan across the mountains to Eastern Wash is something that
>> is talked of a bit.
>> >
>> > I did some studying and identified a route along existing Ham Radio
>> sites to Yakima.
>> > Baldi <-> Crystal Mountain <-> Darland Mountain <-> Yakima
>> > I understand the complexities of site access, and that access to these
>> sites may not be easy ot even feasible. But, having a workable path profile
>> is a starting place.
>> >
>> > I'd be willing to contribute to the project in time and resources.
>> > But would like to know if others are interested in undertaking such a
>> project because it needs to be useful long term to have the support for
>> maintenance and ongoing operation.
>> >
>> > If it were feasible to land the Yakima end on the Yakima County
>> building, that would be another EOC on HamWan, and perhaps the pitch there
>> is an alternative comms path to Camp Murray and to Seattle.
>> >
>> > I look forward to others thoughts on this.
>> > I'm sure I'm not the only person to think about this, so in part,
>> wanted to see if anyone else is interested in this area.
>> >
>> > Randy
>> > W3RWN
>> >
>> > <image.png>
>> >
>> > <image.png>
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>> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 23:05:57 -0700
>> From: Randy Neals <randy at neals.ca>
>> To: Puget Sound Data Ring <psdr at hamwan.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HamWAN PSDR] Crystal Mountain / RAMROD
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>> Thanks Nigel,
>>
>> The sites in my path profile are:
>>
>> Crystal Mountain. 6,778' AMSL 46 56.2854 N, -121 30.0075 W
>> That's in the Mt Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest, at the the top of Alta
>> Crystal Mountain Resort.
>> The resort is a concessionaire of the National Forest Service.
>>
>> Darland Mountain. 6,828' AMSL 46 30.8378 N, -121 12.5952 W
>> Formerly an NFS Fire Lookout site, tower removed in 1966.
>> Site is solar powered and operated by WA7SAR/Yakima County Search and
>> Rescue.
>> The 146.
>> Vehicle accessible, in the Wenatchee National Forest.
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> Yakima County.
>> The Yakima County office is a 4 story+penthouse office building at 1st and
>> MLK.
>> Assuming it can see over the county jail across the street, it has a path
>> to Darland.
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>> Yakima EMD
>> It would also work equally well to the Yakima EMD office in Union Gap.
>> They have a nice tower there that looks like 100' tall.
>>
>> Randy
>> W3RWN
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