[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link

Wed Jun 3 08:12:16 PDT 2020

I see 2 positive votes in this thread (Doug, Nigel) and will assume this is
approved.  I need to start the backfill ordering ASAP as we are getting
into the active work season.  There are a couple of inventory deficiencies
I need to fill as well.  Bart has another request that I expect to see in
the next few days and that will be further depleting inventory.  I will
send a separate note with an indication of planned purchases for quick
review.

-Doug-

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:

> Bart,
>
> I fully support this project along with Jason.  He and I (along with one
> other) manage our installation in the Wiztronics facility.
>
> Since I'm furloughed for the foreseeable future, I'm available to work on
> the install crew if/when this moves forward.  We have a floorstanding rack
> in the west building of the north compound that has plenty of room for a
> switch in that building.
>
> Dale
> AH6ET
>
> On 5/31/2020 11:35 PM, Bart Kus wrote:
>
> Jason, glad you like this idea, as you're one one of the tenants who would
> benefit from the in-building switch access.  :)  We've partnered with
> another tenant who is sponsoring this build-out under his lease, so we
> don't need any further approvals.  But thanks for offering to help!
>
> Kenny, a great question that I forgot to make clear.  There is already
> conduit between all the buildings.  I confirmed tonight that it's got
> sufficient capacity to run an extra CAT5.  I think we only have to fish a
> ~150ft run between the middle building and the bunker, as there are spare
> CAT5s in the conduit between the middle building and north building, so
> that should just be plug-n-play.  The trenching to the bunker was done
> earlier this year as a response to the awful power outages we suffered this
> winter.  The north building is now tied into generator control (and
> possibly power?) of the bunker.
>
> --Bart
>
>
> On 5/31/2020 11:22 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
>
> Bart,
>
> I've seen several of these e-mails about the project, but don't remember
> seeing an explanation of a key aspect.
>
> What is the plan to connect the buildings with gigabit Ethernet?  Are you
> planning on digging a trench, stringing the CAT5 along the tree's or
> something else? Sorry, I am not familiar with the layout or location of
> these different buildings. so maybe that is a good place to start with your
> plan? Have you received permission from the site owners for this work?
>
> Thanks
> Kenny
>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jason J. Hill <Jason at pnwrr.com> wrote:
>
>> I like this idea. It looks like the wiztronics site would be the one
>> you'd like to put the link to rattlesnake on. Since we don't currently
>> occupy their main tower structure, we can check with them to see if a dish
>> could be covered under our current lease at no additional cost if you'd
>> like.
>>
>> Jason
>> kd7tqn
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original message------
>> *From: *Bart Kus
>> *Date: *Sun, May 31, 2020 10:48 PM
>> *To: *Puget Sound Data Ring;
>> *Cc: *
>> *Subject:*[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have 4 clients connected to Baldi-S1 (a SISO sector) that are kind of
>> silly:
>>
>>  # INTERFACE  RADIO-NAME       MAC-ADDRESS       AP  SIGNAL... TX-RATE
>> UPTIME
>>  0 wlan1      AF7PR-Baldi      E4:8D:8C:C6:F5:45 no  -60dBm    32.5...
>> 2d8h51m46s
>>  1 wlan1      KD7TQN-Baldi     D4:CA:6D:C2:ED:93 no  -65dBm    32.5...
>> 2d8h51m32s
>>  2 wlan1      N7OEP/Baldi-B... D4:CA:6D:0D:53:F9 no  -60dBm    32.5...
>> 2d8h51m27s
>>  3 wlan1      Rattlesnake-B... 64:D1:54:AF:3F:CD no  -79dBm    19.5...
>> 1d9h35m21s
>>
>> They're silly because the first 3 are at the same mountain top, just a
>> couple hundred feet away in adjacent shacks.  This is a waste of prime
>> long-range spectrum, being used to do local-links.  I'd like to get all the
>> shacks @ Baldi tied together via gigabit Ethernet, and install access
>> switches at the 2 other shacks so people there can plug into the LAN
>> directly.  This high speed LAN between all shacks can then be used to allow
>> us to address the 4th silly client, which is Rattlesnake Mountain.  I'd
>> like to install a dedicated dish on the northernmost tower (fed by the new
>> high speed LAN) to act as a dedicated high speed link between Baldi and
>> Rattlesnake.  The dish on the Rattlesnake side will also need a modem
>> upgrade to run at full speed, and I'm including that in this proposal.
>>
>> Here is the rough budget for this spend request:
>>
>> *Item*
>> *Quantity*
>> *Cost*
>> *Subtotal*
>> 500ft pull rope
>> 1
>> $12.97
>> $12.97
>> 425ft duct rod
>> 1
>> $111
>> $111
>> Taxes for above 2 items
>> 1
>> $11.53
>> $11.53
>> CRS112-8P-4S-IN for northernmost building, feeding Rattlesnake dish w/
>> PoE and access ports for clients
>> 1
>> $170
>> $170
>> CRS326-24G-2S+RM for middle building, acting as mid-span switch and
>> providing ports to lots of devices there
>> 1
>> $185.24
>> $185.24
>> Taxes for above 2 items
>> 1
>> $33.04
>> $33.04
>> 1000ft Shielded CAT5 TC-PRO ToughCable
>> 1
>> $137.68
>> $137.68
>> Taxes for above
>> 1
>> $12.80
>> $12.80
>> Existing Inventory Estimate: RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM modem
>> 2
>> $150
>> $300
>> Existing Inventory Estimate: mANT30 2ft microwave dish
>> 1
>> $120
>> $120
>> Existing Inventory Estimate: Sleeve30 2ft microwave dish isolation kit
>> 1
>> $100
>> $100
>> TOTAL COST ESTIMATE
>>
>>
>> $1,194.26
>>
>> Current HamWAN balance is about $16k.
>>
>> Procedural reminder since we haven't had one of these emails in way too
>> long: HamWAN directors have 24 hours to vote upon such spend decisions, and
>> members have the same time to weigh in with opinions to influence director
>> votes.  Our procedures are documented here:
>>
>> http://hamwan.org/Administrative/Constitution.html
>>
>> --Bart
>>
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