[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link

Wed Jun 3 09:23:23 PDT 2020

FYI - I'll be submitting a request for the PtP dish/radio to go on Gold, to
provided the second link to Buck.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 8:12 AM Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:

> I see 2 positive votes in this thread (Doug, Nigel) and will assume this
> is approved.  I need to start the backfill ordering ASAP as we are getting
> into the active work season.  There are a couple of inventory deficiencies
> I need to fill as well.  Bart has another request that I expect to see in
> the next few days and that will be further depleting inventory.  I will
> send a separate note with an indication of planned purchases for quick
> review.
>
> -Doug-
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Dale Skyllingstad <
> dskyllingstad at harbornet.com> wrote:
>
>> Bart,
>>
>> I fully support this project along with Jason.  He and I (along with one
>> other) manage our installation in the Wiztronics facility.
>>
>> Since I'm furloughed for the foreseeable future, I'm available to work on
>> the install crew if/when this moves forward.  We have a floorstanding rack
>> in the west building of the north compound that has plenty of room for a
>> switch in that building.
>>
>> Dale
>> AH6ET
>>
>> On 5/31/2020 11:35 PM, Bart Kus wrote:
>>
>> Jason, glad you like this idea, as you're one one of the tenants who
>> would benefit from the in-building switch access.  :)  We've partnered with
>> another tenant who is sponsoring this build-out under his lease, so we
>> don't need any further approvals.  But thanks for offering to help!
>>
>> Kenny, a great question that I forgot to make clear.  There is already
>> conduit between all the buildings.  I confirmed tonight that it's got
>> sufficient capacity to run an extra CAT5.  I think we only have to fish a
>> ~150ft run between the middle building and the bunker, as there are spare
>> CAT5s in the conduit between the middle building and north building, so
>> that should just be plug-n-play.  The trenching to the bunker was done
>> earlier this year as a response to the awful power outages we suffered this
>> winter.  The north building is now tied into generator control (and
>> possibly power?) of the bunker.
>>
>> --Bart
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/2020 11:22 PM, Kenny Richards wrote:
>>
>> Bart,
>>
>> I've seen several of these e-mails about the project, but don't remember
>> seeing an explanation of a key aspect.
>>
>> What is the plan to connect the buildings with gigabit Ethernet?  Are you
>> planning on digging a trench, stringing the CAT5 along the tree's or
>> something else? Sorry, I am not familiar with the layout or location of
>> these different buildings. so maybe that is a good place to start with your
>> plan? Have you received permission from the site owners for this work?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kenny
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jason J. Hill <Jason at pnwrr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I like this idea. It looks like the wiztronics site would be the one
>>> you'd like to put the link to rattlesnake on. Since we don't currently
>>> occupy their main tower structure, we can check with them to see if a dish
>>> could be covered under our current lease at no additional cost if you'd
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> kd7tqn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *Bart Kus
>>> *Date: *Sun, May 31, 2020 10:48 PM
>>> *To: *Puget Sound Data Ring;
>>> *Cc: *
>>> *Subject:*[HamWAN PSDR] VOTE: Baldi LAN expansion and Rattlesnake link
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We have 4 clients connected to Baldi-S1 (a SISO sector) that are kind of
>>> silly:
>>>
>>>  # INTERFACE  RADIO-NAME       MAC-ADDRESS       AP  SIGNAL... TX-RATE
>>> UPTIME
>>>  0 wlan1      AF7PR-Baldi      E4:8D:8C:C6:F5:45 no  -60dBm    32.5...
>>> 2d8h51m46s
>>>  1 wlan1      KD7TQN-Baldi     D4:CA:6D:C2:ED:93 no  -65dBm    32.5...
>>> 2d8h51m32s
>>>  2 wlan1      N7OEP/Baldi-B... D4:CA:6D:0D:53:F9 no  -60dBm    32.5...
>>> 2d8h51m27s
>>>  3 wlan1      Rattlesnake-B... 64:D1:54:AF:3F:CD no  -79dBm    19.5...
>>> 1d9h35m21s
>>>
>>> They're silly because the first 3 are at the same mountain top, just a
>>> couple hundred feet away in adjacent shacks.  This is a waste of prime
>>> long-range spectrum, being used to do local-links.  I'd like to get all the
>>> shacks @ Baldi tied together via gigabit Ethernet, and install access
>>> switches at the 2 other shacks so people there can plug into the LAN
>>> directly.  This high speed LAN between all shacks can then be used to allow
>>> us to address the 4th silly client, which is Rattlesnake Mountain.  I'd
>>> like to install a dedicated dish on the northernmost tower (fed by the new
>>> high speed LAN) to act as a dedicated high speed link between Baldi and
>>> Rattlesnake.  The dish on the Rattlesnake side will also need a modem
>>> upgrade to run at full speed, and I'm including that in this proposal.
>>>
>>> Here is the rough budget for this spend request:
>>>
>>> *Item*
>>> *Quantity*
>>> *Cost*
>>> *Subtotal*
>>> 500ft pull rope
>>> 1
>>> $12.97
>>> $12.97
>>> 425ft duct rod
>>> 1
>>> $111
>>> $111
>>> Taxes for above 2 items
>>> 1
>>> $11.53
>>> $11.53
>>> CRS112-8P-4S-IN for northernmost building, feeding Rattlesnake dish w/
>>> PoE and access ports for clients
>>> 1
>>> $170
>>> $170
>>> CRS326-24G-2S+RM for middle building, acting as mid-span switch and
>>> providing ports to lots of devices there
>>> 1
>>> $185.24
>>> $185.24
>>> Taxes for above 2 items
>>> 1
>>> $33.04
>>> $33.04
>>> 1000ft Shielded CAT5 TC-PRO ToughCable
>>> 1
>>> $137.68
>>> $137.68
>>> Taxes for above
>>> 1
>>> $12.80
>>> $12.80
>>> Existing Inventory Estimate: RB921UAGS-5SHPacD-NM modem
>>> 2
>>> $150
>>> $300
>>> Existing Inventory Estimate: mANT30 2ft microwave dish
>>> 1
>>> $120
>>> $120
>>> Existing Inventory Estimate: Sleeve30 2ft microwave dish isolation kit
>>> 1
>>> $100
>>> $100
>>> TOTAL COST ESTIMATE
>>>
>>>
>>> $1,194.26
>>>
>>> Current HamWAN balance is about $16k.
>>>
>>> Procedural reminder since we haven't had one of these emails in way too
>>> long: HamWAN directors have 24 hours to vote upon such spend decisions, and
>>> members have the same time to weigh in with opinions to influence director
>>> votes.  Our procedures are documented here:
>>>
>>> http://hamwan.org/Administrative/Constitution.html
>>>
>>> --Bart
>>>
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